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Post by Adrian on 14th March 2010, 2:16 pm

Its a cartoon bunny with a shiny nose

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Post by Guest on 14th March 2010, 2:53 pm

With a nose like that I think your bunny has been on something too!...but you love us really! smitten

ps you cow looks like a pig too! Twisted Evil
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Post by frankbeswick on 9th September 2010, 11:53 pm

I don't mind being called a tree-hugger. I love trees; I have a few of my own and I would like more. Why don't I call the opposition tree-phobes? Tree-hugger or tree-phobe, I know what I would rather be.
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Post by Compostwoman on 10th September 2010, 12:14 am

*I* am certainly proud to be a tree hugger!
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Post by Lizbuff13 on 10th September 2010, 6:22 am

I would much rather hug a tree than a barrel of oil.......

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Post by Mike on 11th September 2010, 2:32 pm

Quite common that a lable intended by one side as an insult is a badge of honor to the other side. Perhaps so common that this can be taken as a general rule and the few exception terms noted that are always considered insults.

The anit-environmentals consider "treehugger" an insult; the environmentals wear the label proudly.


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Post by Hairyloon on 11th September 2010, 5:23 pm

Mike wrote:Quite common that a lable intended by one side as an insult is a badge of honor to the other side. Perhaps so common that this can be taken as a general rule and the few exception terms noted that are always considered insults.
That is probably a very good generalisation, but I think you have all missed my point (actually, you haven't; the real point was to try and get some discussion going. Someone was complaining about a lack if I recall correctly).

See, in my dictionary, "Treehugger" is not defined as "person who enjoys hugging trees", it is more along the lines of "flippin' nut-job who thinks all trees are so sacred they should never be harmed".
Or words to that effect.

So most of you fine people, sitting around your nice wood fires on your nice wooden chairs do not qualify as treehuggers.
Not in my book anyway (Belligerence for beginners... Illustrated edition). Wink

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I don't suppose you did.
It is a trait that is exhibited by most humans that was arbitrarily chosen as one not worthy of comment: you would not see someone walking upright and comment on it.
"You upright walky person".
Likewise, hugging trees is not an unusual trait.. It is perfectly normal.

Perhaps noses would have been a better illustration.
"You with the nose" is not a term that would be applied except in the face of an extraordinary nose, and there it is hard to see how it would not be offensive.
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Post by Guest on 12th September 2010, 8:41 pm

Was your father a Roman....Big Nose!!! whistle2
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Post by Hairyloon on 12th September 2010, 9:07 pm

Blessed are the cheesemakers indeed.
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Post by Wilhelm Von Rhomboid on 12th September 2010, 9:19 pm

Cheesemaker is an offensive term.

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Post by Lizbuff13 on 12th September 2010, 9:29 pm

I resemble that remark!!

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Post by Adrian on 12th September 2010, 9:43 pm

Lizbuff13 wrote:I resemble that remark!!

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Post by Mike on 12th September 2010, 10:10 pm

Hairyloon wrote: See, in my dictionary, "Treehugger" is not defined as "person who enjoys hugging trees", it is more along the lines of "flippin' nut-job who thinks all trees are so sacred they should never be harmed".
Or words to that effect.

Disagree (fairly strongly).

The point I was trying to make was that terms like these depend very much on who is using the term; on that "my dictionary" as you put it. We have lots of terms like this where the "dictionaries" are so radically different that it is impossible to consider these terms in a vacuum. Have to take into account who is using the term and directed toward whom.

In other words, if person X calls me a "treehugger" until I know a lot more about that person I can't tell if praising me or condemning me.


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Post by Compostwoman on 12th September 2010, 11:14 pm

I hugged several trees today. ( and no, not with a chainsaw! with my arms... Laughing )

I felt good. I hope the trees enjoyed the experience, also...
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Post by mark barker on 13th September 2010, 9:53 am

Mike wrote:
In other words, if person X calls me a "treehugger" until I know a lot more about that person I can't tell if praising me or condemning me.

Are you really that sensitive? I'm often called a hippy (normally by people that have a very small insight into my life). Does it bother me? No. The people whose opinions I value know me well enough to make a balanced judgment (and yes, some of them call me a hippy too!). Everyone else can think what they like, its not going to make one bit of difference to my life!

As an aside, I've never hugged a tree, but its on my list of things to do today! (if it hugs back you'll hear the screams!)

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Post by Wilhelm Von Rhomboid on 13th September 2010, 11:10 am

Funny one, the 'hippy' tag. Living as I do, in a town full of hippies, I am always intrigued as to how some people take great offence at the term and will complain bitterly when they are described thus (even though they are stereotypical patchouli, beads and sandals hippies - think Neil from the Young Ones), whereas others cheerily describe themselves as hippies and take great delight, rather than umbrage, at the term (even if their hippiness is on the inside rather than broadcast for all to see.)

Also interesting how a term used as a pejorative by one group can be appropriated and turned around by its intended target. 'Punk' would be an example. Or more pointedly, terms like 'Queer' or 'Nigger', which are insults from the mouths of Fred Phelps and David Duke and their ilk, but reclaimed as self-affirmation by the LGBT community or Richard Pryor or Curtis Mayfield or whoever.

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Post by Mike on 13th September 2010, 1:47 pm

Wilhelm Von Rhomboid wrote:
Also interesting how a term used as a pejorative by one group can be appropriated and turned around by its intended target. 'Punk' would be an example. Or more pointedly, terms like 'Queer' or 'Nigger', which are insults from the mouths of Fred Phelps and David Duke and their ilk, but reclaimed as self-affirmation by the LGBT community or Richard Pryor or Curtis Mayfield or whoever.

What I meant except it's not always a case of "turning around" the term (in some cases these terms were in use by the "in group" as a positive description of themselves before the "out group" began using the term as an insult.

"Hippy" would be a good example of that (where the term not changed in pronunciation). I can think of others like that and still others where because different languages involved you do sort of have an "appropriation" situation except that with the "in group" people now speaking the second language this is less clear (the term originated in their first language where it was positive. Contrast the Italian "guappo" becoming "wop" with the Yiddish "yid" remaining "yid").

As to being overly sensitive, no reason to jump there. We were discussing knowledge about the meaning of utterances. That's a different question than caring about it. Whether I cared how "person A meant it" would depend on a whole lot of other issues (the nature of my social interactions with person A).

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Post by Dandelion on 13th September 2010, 5:28 pm

Changing the subject a bit, I can remember when my oldest daughter really did hug a tree, and it was quite touching. We were living in Windsor when the great storm took place in 1987, and our oldest was four. The town suffered a lot of damage, and in a park near to our house a tree which our children used to play by had blown down. To a four year old the damage must have been quite traumatic because so much had been uprooted and broken. I can remember her patting and hugging the tree like saying goodbye to an old friend. I suppose this affects my reaction to being called a tree hugger - it doesn't bother me.

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Post by Guest on 15th September 2010, 7:34 pm

Good story Dandelion! hearts

I lean on trees. They seem to be the only living thing that is kind enough to let me.....
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Post by Compostwoman on 15th September 2010, 7:41 pm

Part of the teaching I did today involved getting people to play a game called "Meet a Tree" where, in pairs, one person is blindfolded and relies on another to guide them through a wood to a tree ( chosen by the guider) The blindfolded person then feels the tree all over, is taken away, spun round and round and then unblindfolded. They then have to find their tree again...in a wood of trees....

It IS a game, but also a powerful "trust" workshop AND it explores using other senses than just sight AND it allows people to really "see" how different every tree is, and to really "feel" the magic of each tree.

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