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Post by Chilli-head on Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:01 pm

Oh dear.  Potatoes were (wrongly, IMHO) ruled out as counting as one of your five-a-day fruit and veg, I think principally to avoid people counting chips as one.  Now look what they've gone and done:

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How can potatoes be unhealthy ?

Well, actually I guess it is also to do with international cuisine making more use of rice and pasta.  The convenience I can understand too, rice and pasta don't turn green and start to grow if left too long.  That was a distinct factor for me when I lived alone.
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Post by FloBear on Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:39 pm

Oh dear.
But no rice or pasta can beat the taste of the Pink Fir Apples I grew this year by accident, dug up and cooked. I let them cool a bit and started to eat them straight out of the pan.

Anyway it's not the fault of 'the Millenials', they didn't decide what counts as Five a Day, it was the previous generation or two who did that! Surely they could have said, for any fruit / veg: 'only counts if not covered in fat or sugar'.
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Post by Ploshkin on Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:13 pm

Poor millenials get the blame for nearly as much as the baby boomers (of which I am one). At least they couldn't pin lack of spud sales on us though I don't buy any this time of year because I have my own.
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Post by freebird on Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:46 am

Potatoes are a bit of a problem when catering for a diabetic, as the starch turns to sugar in the bloodstream - as of course it does with rice and pasta too. But at least there are wholegrain versions of those.

I agree about the 5-a-day thing though. Stupid not to include potatoes. Generally though I've given up listening to what is supposed to be good or bad for me. I reckon lots of variety and not too much of any one thing. I had a Japanese student once who told me that their philosophy was to try to eat at least 30 different foods every day. Ever tried it? Surprisingly difficult.
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Post by Chilli-head on Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:25 am

Are those inulin rich tubers, like Jerusalem artichoke, Yacon, etc etc any good for diabetics ? Sorry if it is a daft question, I have no idea really but it sounds like a possible excuse to grow something a bit interesting (if possibly flatulence inducing Embarassed ).

I think diet and health issues are one area where you are definitely best with a "Homemade Life" approach - make your own decision as to what is best. In recent years carbohydrates - starchy stuff -have been a bit of a bogey man amongst self proclaimed diet experts, but in today's news we see that a study has shown the risk of getting too much of your energy from carbs is less than the risk of too littile:

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I honestly think that there is no hope of making sense of the dietary information found by scientific study, then filtered through the popular press. And I have plenty of experience at reading and interpreting scientific papers. Your Japanese student has a good plan, I think. A mixed diet is the key. Another dietary rule of thumb that makes some sense is to eat a rainbow - lots of different colours of foods.
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Post by Dandelion on Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:16 pm

I agree about potatoes being one of your five a day. My sister once worked for a pharmaceutical company - her area was vitamins, and she knew a lot about them! I do remember her saying that potatoes (when cooked properly) contained more vitamin C than oranges (which may have been stored incorrectly or for a long time.) She also said that making chips actually preserves more of the vitamin C than boiling. I must admit that I love potatoes and other starchy food - I can't be doing with making courgettes look like strips of pasta. But I can see that potatoes do tend to be eaten with whacking amounts of butter and fat!

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Post by freebird on Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:17 am

Talking of butter on potatoes - there are some varieties that make superb baked potatoes but need no butter. Vivaldi and Marfona are two that come to mind. They seem to be much less starchy and I believe are a little better for diabetics because of this. I always pay extra to get these varieties, rather than some nameless 'baking' potato.

I keep the fat down in mash by adding a generous spoonful of low-fat plain yoghurt. And if we want some lubrication on new potatoes, we both actually prefer an oil & vinegar dressing (homemade of course) to butter. And I never make chips at home. Resolved not to do that when my two boys were small, as I thought I would forever be making chips. So they always were, and still are, an eating-out treat.
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Post by Ploshkin on Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:31 am

Mayonnaise is good in mash if there's a suitable diabetic version.
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